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Mordiego · May 08, 2012, 06:54 PM // 18:54

link to the bot forum plz, I want to get glad r7 in 2 days!

Nerel · May 08, 2012, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Riot Narita

Dhuum will be busy. When he's good and ready.

And the people he bans... will have no HoM rewards in GW2.

Nope, but they'll probably have made so much real world cash from RMT that they'll be able to buy dozens of GW2 accounts ready for botting in a more lucrative game...

spun ducky · May 08, 2012, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Nerel

Nope, but they'll probably have made so much real world cash from RMT that they'll be able to buy dozens of GW2 accounts ready for botting in a more lucrative game...

Done and Done already I will be curious how long anet takes to fix this as it isn't a simple exploit.

Example · May 08, 2012, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

Done and Done already I will be curious how long anet takes to fix this as it isn't a simple exploit.

w/e you talk about

Kunder · May 08, 2012, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Hardly a dangerous exploit. It doesn't hurt other players in any way like some kind of PvP bug or cheat (like DoSing people on the other team). Guild wars economy was screwed up infinitely more already by duping, this is merely a blip on the radar.

As for "describing the exploit", I'm pretty sure that 99.999% of GW players have no idea how to implement the exploit given what the OP posted and the other .001% would be able to figure out that it would involve forged packets regardless of what the OP posted.

TrippieHippie89 · May 08, 2012, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Am i the only one who realizes gw is dead and gw2 is right around the corner?

makosi · May 08, 2012, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Is this why ectos went from 11k to 7k?

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Originally Posted by TrippieHippie89

Am i the only one who realizes gw is dead and gw2 is right around the corner?

Right around the corner? I wouldn't put money on that.

Gabs88 · May 08, 2012, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by TrippieHippie89

Am i the only one who realizes gw is dead and gw2 is right around the corner?

In that case you should realize GW2 is buildt on GW1 and if this is possible here it's probably possible in GW2 as well.

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Originally Posted by makosi

Is this why ectos went from 11k to 7k?

No, has very little relevance to that. Ecto drop has to do with people offloading them to max HoM more then anything else.

Strongboxes on the other hand dropped from ~8k to 3-4k each in a very short amount of time. I'd say this is directly responcible for that drop as well as zkeys dropping.

Premium Unleaded · May 08, 2012, 09:49 PM // 21:49

It requires a specifically altered gw client that wasn't publicly released. Only a few people actually had access to it or the know-how to make the modifications regardless. I doubt ANet would do anything about it though tbh, there are far more widespread problems that exist that ANet has still turned a blind eye to. I would even wager that most, if not all the common bots currently in play are the ones publicly available to download from there, source code and all.

The ecto price drop has more to do with GW2 CB that just happened and with GW2's supposed release date nearing.

Example · May 08, 2012, 10:15 PM // 22:15

id say zkey drop is caused by doubled balth imp or whatever rewarding of 7th ani
and i totaly dont understand how this should be possible

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In that case you should realize GW2 is buildt on GW1 and if this is possible here it's probably possible in GW2 as well.

2 diff games, 2 diff systems same exploit ?

Motoko · May 08, 2012, 10:17 PM // 22:17

You can have everyone in the game get r12 gladiator. It won't make much of a difference because anyone "that good"* is known and it will take any high-end player a matter of moments to figure out the r12 players are bad if we decide to play with any of them.

*Rank has been meaningless for sometime now - for those who are new and do not know this

Darkobra · May 08, 2012, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

In that case you should realize GW2 is buildt on GW1 and if this is possible here it's probably possible in GW2 as well.

I'm 99% sure they use different engines and systems. I don't recall GW 1 using Havok.

MithranArkanere · May 08, 2012, 11:37 PM // 23:37

The Guild Wars engine is called Guild Wars engine.
The Guild Wars 2 is a HEAVILY improved version of that engine.

I don't know all the technologies used in the engine, but I do know that the models are Granny in both of them, and the physics system in GW2 is Havok. GW1 doesn't seem to have a physics system at all.

Whatway · May 09, 2012, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Riot Narita

Dhuum will be busy. When he's good and ready.

And the people he bans... will have no HoM rewards in GW2.

A google search will show you how much each stack of ectos/zkeys sells for. Another will show how much accounts with PvP titles sell for. If you really think these folks care about HoM then you're delusional or ignorant of why they do what they do.

jazilla · May 09, 2012, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

I'd say this is directly responcible for that drop as well as zkeys dropping.

zkeys have been around 5-6k for a very long time now and that hasn't changed a bit.

Vovowhat11 · May 09, 2012, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I am just think that why spend maybe 1000-100000 dollars on fixing the problem or waiting for a tiny bit of days for GW2 to come out. Also the shop price drop is because who wants to buy Eotn for 20$ when for 60$ you get a whole new game. Normally in games when a sequel comes out the old one gets very cheap because it is OLD.

Gabs88 · May 09, 2012, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by jazilla

zkeys have been around 5-6k for a very long time now and that hasn't changed a bit.

The wholesale prices have been around 5,6-6k for the past year (when buying from people that are selling more then like 5 of em) and they seem to be dropping. I've seen WTSs for large amounts as low as 4,5 and 5k lately.

Swingline · May 09, 2012, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

I've seen WTSs for large amounts as low as 4,5 and 5k lately.

... and you don't attribute that to the GW2 release being right around the corner?

If this exploit was easy to do and as wide spread as dupping was then the market would have crashed on many items that any player would take notice. The OP was probably right to post it on here because Anet needs fix something like this. If left unchecked it could become a huge problem in the future.

The Mountain · May 09, 2012, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by Swingline

... and you don't attribute that to the GW2 release being right around the corner?

If this exploit was easy to do and as wide spread as dupping was then the market would have crashed on many items that any player would take notice. The OP was probably right to post it on here because Anet needs fix something like this. If left unchecked it could become a huge problem in the future.

The duping exploit was not widespread in any sort of way...only a handful of people were messing with that. On the other hand, when people become involved in botting enough to make programs public, then widespread is a term that can be applied...

Lordkrall · May 09, 2012, 06:22 AM // 06:22

I would also assume that the dropping prices on Z-keys could have something to do with the 2 weeks double Faction gain from PVP.
Heck I could get about 1 new key each second fight in FA.